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A little romance in the fandom here and there is fine, but it's honestly kind of annoying when I find five pages of Perry Mason/Della Street fanfiction and only about two stories in the whole section that are Gen/Mystery genre! Seriously, almost everyone writing for the show at FF.net seems to have a one-track mind. That was the case several years ago when I looked before, as well.

Also, I thought it was a little odd that the slashers hadn't come out to play. Then I see there's one on Archive of Our Own, writing Perry Mason/Paul Drake.

I still find it strange that the slashers don't engage in Perry Mason/Hamilton Burger. Not that I want to see it; it would honestly be rather frightening. But in an anime series, and probably in recent TV shows or movies, rival characters like them who have a very interesting and complex relationship (they've gone out to lunch and dinner, they occasionally work together on cases, Burger once asked Perry to defend a friend of his) would excite the slashers to no end.

I wish someone would show some interest in writing about them in a Gen way (though honestly, since it seems like anything concerning them is downright impossible and non-existent to find, I'd probably be willing to even read a mild slashfic on them if it existed). Their interaction is the main thing that intrigues me about the show (and the main thing that contributed to me being a casual fan). I've watched it off and on for probably twelve or thirteen years, maybe longer.

And Simon Oakland's characters can't catch a break. He plays a bad fellow and ends up dead. He plays a good fellow and still ends up dead. And the latter death pretty much broke my heart. It was so needless! His character, Captain Caldwell, was killed by some kook who didn't want Caldwell's investigation into sabotage to cause his precious missile not to launch. So the nut killed him to halt the investigation.

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...You know, there is a Bollywood actor I don't like because the one role of his I saw rubbed me the wrong way. And then I found out that he was often a mean-spirited person at times IRL and that lost any chance of me ever warming up to him. I usually try to separate an actor from a role if I don't particularly like a role, but... urgh. This is the only case where I've had such a dislike to a performance that I cannot stand an actor. It doesn't help that, lately, he's been acting in some movies that look so incredibly dumb based on the trailers.

(Plus, he's a bitter rival of another Bollywood actor whom I do like, so that counts against him, too...)

That would definitely make a difference. What I've heard about Raymond Burr in real-life is mostly, I think, positive, so I just can't think too ill of him. I particularly love how he lobbied so hard for William Talman (who played Hamilton Burger) to be allowed to return to Perry Mason after he was unfairly fired when he was arrested for supposed participation in a wild party. (Talman insisted he had not done anything outrageous, as reported; he'd only stopped in for a drink.)

**nods** I mentioned why I hated the movie below, and I was further turned off when I heard how he was a bit mean-spirited. And it's very disappointing about his bitter rivalry with the actor I do like, because it used to be a friendly rivalry--they even shared an onscreen hug in Om Shanti Om, but about a year after that movie, they had a bitter falling out and though my favorite seems to be ready to move on, the unfavorite is not letting go of the grudge.

And that is awesome about Raymond Burr. Did the lobbying work?

Oy vey. That's terrible that it went from a friendly rivalry to something outright nasty.

It certainly helped! CBS finally relented and let William Talman come back.

Indeed. And it's split the Bollywood community into "I support this guy" versus "I support the other"--flame wars and everything.

...But that is awesome that they let him come back!

Oh dear. Ugh.

Yes! I've seen some of the episodes without him and it just wasn't the same at all. He brought so much to the show.

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Bollywood is the Indian/Hindi film industry. There are some movies that I do like a lot--most of which I referenced in that last Kolchak fic I had done.

**nods** I was shocked at how horrible the characters of Mel Barnes and William Poole were in Bonanza, but I had already been crushing on Simon by that point, so it didn't faze my liking of him. For me, real-life factors of an actor's life take a bit more precedence than the roles, though I can definitely see myself having a negative view based on a really bad role. What got me with that Bollywood actor was that he played this brash, angry character who was made out to be in the right when his girlfriend broke up with him and married someone else--she was made out to be the one who had wronged him. The heck!? What are they trying to say--that it's okay to be in a potentially dangerous relationship if the guy claims to love you!?

But, more often than not, I try to hold out for the "Mean Character, Nice Actor" Trope: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/RealLife/Ptitle2td6va92

I don't think I was crushing on Simon yet, and it didn't faze me, either.

Ugh. That movie in general sounds ridiculous, if that's the sort of ideas it's promoting.

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I'll never give up trying! Although I have to say, if Tony and General Moore aren't good enough proof for you that Simon is awesome, I'm not sure anything can do it. ;)

Wow, that does sound horrifying in From Here to Eternity. Poor Frank Sinatra's character!

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That is encouraging!

That does sound depressing. Although I'm curious, I have to wonder how it differs from other tragic films you do like. Besides Frank's character being killed so horribly, of course. That's awesome that he stood up to Ernest's wretched character, but devastating that he was killed in return.

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Ahhh. Yeah, that definitely makes it sound utterly discouraging all-around.

**nods**

Oh? Well, I won't stop trying, either, LOL. I'm guessing you've seen Simon's Get Smart appearance?

Ah, it took me a while to realize that Vincent Price played villains in the majority of his movies--my first introduction to him was through The 13 Ghosts of Scooby-Doo, where he played an animated sorcerer version of himself. I adored him. And a lot of his villain characters are meant to be either kooky or sympathetic rather than deep evil--though there are some that are, like Richard III... Of course, that was based on a real story.

Yikes, I haven't seen From Here to Eternity, but I can imagine being traumatized by something like that as a kid. I tended to get scared by live-action hurt/comfort scenarios when I was a kid (now, of course, I know better and can't get enough of it). But I've never had a problem with animated hurt/comfort; I guess live-action was more "real" to my 5-year-old brain...

Somehow I don't think that would be the best recommendation. LOL. After all, we want to show D'Angelo that Simon plays awesome good guys.

Being based on truth definitely makes a difference. If the person was a rat, it needs to stay that way in any production.

Oh yeah. Oops. But he was amusing there, nonetheless. Okay, how about the sergeant from that Decoy ep? I loved how he takes his hat off and looks genuinely upset when the nurse gives him the bad news about that girl...

And yes, very true.

Yessss, the Decoy episode is awesome! I ordered the DVD last night. I hope the print is good enough to take pictures. I've heard the quality on that episode isn't so great on the DVD.

Ooh. Hope you get that quickly! Let me know how the other eps are!

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