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ladybug_archive) wrote2006-11-03 07:13 pm
ladybug_archive) wrote2006-11-03 07:13 pm
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**sweatdrop.** Okaay....
Went looking for DC sites in the morning, and I found a French one. Curiously wanting to know what was said about the Black Org members, I took the text and ran it through Babelfish for a basic translation. Vermouth's page says that she is Gin's mistress. .___.; Dunno how they got that idea. She flirts with him, and he lets her, but that seems to be because he's usually so calm and blasé, and he doesn't find Vermouth worth getting visibly irritated over, most of the time (though he did get mad when she teased him and Vodka during the nightclub scene). If she was his mistress, then Gin/Vermouth would pretty much be a canon pairing, which it isn't.
I'm still tinkering with the oneshot for Theme #9 on 30 Nights. I think it's finally almost ready, though. And I have various plunnies for future experiments/stories.
1. For 30 Nights, a fic involving a snowstorm and Sherry worrying about Gin and Vodka's safety, as they're out in it, perhaps on a job. And they do come back safe. ^^ (Hopefully it will not bear resemblance to the great Kaito/Aoko fic that Candy__Chan wrote!)
2. Also for 30 Nights ... a darker subject, and I'm hesitant to do anything with it or even to mention it. ^^; But it would involve Sherry being pregnant and then miscarrying, and how she deals with it and how Gin tries to figure out how to help her deal with it. I'm *really* iffy on it, and I probably won't write it. But it keeps bothering me anyway. XD;
3. For 100_Situations, a scare where Vodka might have cancer. He doesn't, but I've been bouncing the plunnie around in my head. Gin can worry for a change, though of course with him, he'll never say he's worrying and will try to honestly convince himself he isn't.
4. Also for 100_Situations, I need to finish that fic where Gin overworks himself and collapses. XD;
5. I had some other plunnie for 100_Situations, but at the moment I can't think of it, though maybe it was that fic where Gin is missing/presumed dead, and Vodka is assigned to work with Vermouth.... Then there's the one detailing the early days of Gin and Vodka's partnership, and how they finally came to get along....
EDIT: I've tried to think about what kind of jobs Gin and Vodka might have during the Good Enough for You storyline. And I can't really think of anything. XD; I considered mercenaries, but after being part of a big syndicate, and being one of the highest ranked members, I don't think Gin would really want to end up as just a hired gun. Too much pride, and too little control over what would happen.
I also need to rework chapter 7 of Breakdown, as per Aubrie's advice, and I'd like to write chapter 4 of No Way Out, though I'd like to get some more opinions on what I've done with chapter 3 first....
I'm still tinkering with the oneshot for Theme #9 on 30 Nights. I think it's finally almost ready, though. And I have various plunnies for future experiments/stories.
1. For 30 Nights, a fic involving a snowstorm and Sherry worrying about Gin and Vodka's safety, as they're out in it, perhaps on a job. And they do come back safe. ^^ (Hopefully it will not bear resemblance to the great Kaito/Aoko fic that Candy__Chan wrote!)
2. Also for 30 Nights ... a darker subject, and I'm hesitant to do anything with it or even to mention it. ^^; But it would involve Sherry being pregnant and then miscarrying, and how she deals with it and how Gin tries to figure out how to help her deal with it. I'm *really* iffy on it, and I probably won't write it. But it keeps bothering me anyway. XD;
3. For 100_Situations, a scare where Vodka might have cancer. He doesn't, but I've been bouncing the plunnie around in my head. Gin can worry for a change, though of course with him, he'll never say he's worrying and will try to honestly convince himself he isn't.
4. Also for 100_Situations, I need to finish that fic where Gin overworks himself and collapses. XD;
5. I had some other plunnie for 100_Situations, but at the moment I can't think of it, though maybe it was that fic where Gin is missing/presumed dead, and Vodka is assigned to work with Vermouth.... Then there's the one detailing the early days of Gin and Vodka's partnership, and how they finally came to get along....
EDIT: I've tried to think about what kind of jobs Gin and Vodka might have during the Good Enough for You storyline. And I can't really think of anything. XD; I considered mercenaries, but after being part of a big syndicate, and being one of the highest ranked members, I don't think Gin would really want to end up as just a hired gun. Too much pride, and too little control over what would happen.
I also need to rework chapter 7 of Breakdown, as per Aubrie's advice, and I'd like to write chapter 4 of No Way Out, though I'd like to get some more opinions on what I've done with chapter 3 first....
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http://perso.orange.fr/cursed-blades/detvsorg_v2/detvsorg-accueil.htm
(It was dag's site...^^)
Well, no offense, but in canon(At last in the french version) Vermouth was Gin's mistress...
To be more precise, in the martini scene in the bar, she said...
"Un petit martini COMME AU BON VIEUX TEMPS, ca ne te tenterait pas?"
In english, it would become something like "Would you mind to share a little martini with me, ONCE AGAIN?"
And Gin didn't contradict her so...
Well, you could argue than maybe, in the original version, Vermouth lines didn't implies than she was once Gin's mistress, but neither of us had read the japanese version...But a french who had read the manga in his own languague could perfectly infer than in canon, Gin was vermouth's mistress...
That said, I'm agree than Gin/Vermouth was one-sided and than Gin didn't feels love for her, but it is possible he could have feeled lust for her...
He is bored when Vermouth ask him to share a little martini with her, yes, but it could be because the intimate moment they are shared was just something he had accept to done because he was bored this time...Or maybe because, before to know Sherry, Vermouth was the only woman who had interessed him...
For now, we could only infer since we know nothing about Gin, Sherry and vermouth's past...
"If she was his mistress, then Gin/Vermouth would pretty much be a canon pairing, which it isn't."
And, what could made you said than Gin/Vermouth was non-canon?
There is an interview I missed when Aoyama had said that?
It's the same thing for Gin/Sherry, this pairing is not canon at all...
Some fan are infered than Gin and Sherry was more than colleague(And vol 24 prove that), yes, but there is no evidence than they were lover, or than Gin had feeled more than lust or maybe just curiosity toward Sherry before Akemi's death...
For now, fan could made what they want in the plotholes which need to be lighted...
That said, you've become like me, too many plunnies to hand...XD
I hope they will not kill you, plunnies have so harsh teeth when they'are too much to be handled...^^;
Good luck with your ficclet...^^
For Gin work after his "redemption"...Well, a pretty good question...^^;
Sorrowfully, I don't find a answer right now...
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That's interesting about the French translation. ^^ Yeah, from language to language, there's all kinds of varying translations. I guess the only way to for certain know what's originally meant is to be a Japanese language major.
If I say Gin/Vermouth, I'm thinking of it being a two-sided thing. XD Usually I go Vermouth/Gin, which means it's one-sided, on her part. Though neither is officially canon, as far as I know, and neither is Gin/Sherry, even though some fans like to imagine that it is. XD
I do have a hard time even imagining Gin even just being fascinated with/interested by Vermouth, since she annoys him so much. ^^
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I've thought it was maybe Dag's site because in the Mib section, she had said than Vermouth was once Gin's mistress...^^
"If I say Gin/Vermouth, I'm thinking of it being a two-sided thing. XD Usually I go Vermouth/Gin, which means it's one-sided, on her part. Though neither is officially canon, as far as I know, and neither is Gin/Sherry, even though some fans like to imagine that it is. XD
I do have a hard time even imagining Gin even just being fascinated with/interested by Vermouth, since she annoys him so much. ^^"
Well, Gin is a man like everybody else, so there must be times when he feels desire, and Vermouth is an attractive woman, and the only Syndicate's member who is as skilled than him, so I could see Gin beeing, in a way, interessed by Vermouth, even for a short time, in the past...(For Sherry it's another question...XD)
And even if he is annoyed by her, he also seemed to respect her(In the end of vol 24, he said to her"I'm sorry a woman like you was forced to help an old bag like Pisco to escape the cop, but you were the only one who could did that"), and there is even times when those two seemed shared a bemused "friendship"(Like in black impact, "Well, I will let the sleeping Kogoro in peace, for now, but only because you seemed to like him.").
That said, I don't think than Gin/Vermouth could be two-sided or even one-sided for Vermouth...
I could see her beeing amused and lighty interessed by Gin, but I don't think she could love him in a romantic way...
(I could see Vermouth beeing in love, but not with Gin...)
In my opinion, it's believable those two could have shared a one-night stand, but I don't think one of them could trully beeing in love with the other...
The relationship with those two is interessing because it's neither love nor friendship..Xd