Slimer!

Aug. 21st, 2016 03:05 am
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More Ghostbusters pondering. I definitely think Peter is in the right when he's upset that Slimer has eaten all the food and doesn't think about the others enough to leave any for them, even when he promises he will. But on the other hand, I think Peter goes too far at other times. It's fine if he and Slimer just want to tease each other, but he actually got Slimer scared in Adventures in Slime and Space and that's definitely what caused the whole problem. It was frustrating that Peter kept wanting to leave and didn't acknowledge his part in what went wrong. Actually, I don't think anyone acknowledged it. Typical of some cartoons, but some others do acknowledge in the scripts when a character has caused something to be set in motion. (And to be fair to the show, they did acknowledge when Peter perhaps went too far in Slimer, Come Home, although that was an occasion where I thought there was definitely reason to be angry.)

Since Adventures in Slime and Space sounded like it had so much promise from the initial summary and then was a let-down, it's tempting to write my own version of it with some things a little different. Slimer would probably run into a cloning machine or a machine that malfunctioned into being a cloning machine, instead of a disintegration machine, because that is too creepy as heck. And there would be some acknowledgement that Peter shouldn't have terrorized Slimer that much, either from Peter himself or from the others. And I think there'd be more detail of how to turn Slimer back from being evil, because that was too glossed over and that was the most interesting part of the episode.

Of course, I don't know that I ever actually would write it. And I'd like to have a better copy of the episode that I could refer to some more before I'd try. Sigh. Someone finally replied to my thread and they found some of the discs still at their Wal-Mart, but theirs didn't have the episode either. I am so bewildered as to why mine did, and so frustrated that they stopped having them right when I would have bought it there despite the higher price....

I also still kind of want one of the Slimer plushies, which are still there. The little ones seem too much for the price ($10, I think), but every time I see them, they look bigger than I remember them as being and the price doesn't seem so bad. And they're really soft! They have a really big talking one that's only $5 more, though. But Dad would probably hit the ceiling if he saw that, LOL. The small one would be much more inconspicuous. Yet the bigger one seems like a far better deal. And I know I really shouldn't get either one of them right now. I should keep the money for DVDs. And then there's a Build-a-Bear coupon I was hoping I could use. They have a Slimer too, but the coupon wouldn't work for that. And actually, I think the ones Wal-Mart carries look more accurate.

And really, I shouldn't spend any money for fun stuff other than perhaps using the coupon. I need to be saving so that I'll be able to do fun things on my birthday. It won't be long now. Sometimes I start saving for that in July.

Date: 2016-08-23 01:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rose-of-pollux.livejournal.com
So, out of sheer curiosity, I did check out the beginning of Adventure in Slime and Space (managed to get DM to work) and uggggh, that really made it seem like Peter didn't care two hoots about Slimer at all and was only annoyed that there were now mini-clones more than being upset that something like that had happened to him.

Granted, I haven't seen him beyond those five minutes, so maybe there are "Aww, he really does care moments" after all, but yeaaaaah, definitely not a good first impression.

Incidentally, is it true what it says on Wikipedia that the reason why they switched Lorenzo Music out was because Bill Murray made a comment that Peter sounded too much like Garfield? Ugh. I've never been a big fan of Murray, and that certainly didn't help (I had zero expectations for his portrayal of Baloo, and was extremely pleasantly surprised that aside from one complaint, I thought he was actually quite good. He's no Phil Harris, of course...)

Date: 2016-08-23 05:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] insaneladybug.livejournal.com
Yeah, that really is how it comes across in that episode.

I don't know what the reason is. But I thought the reason Lorenzo Music did his Garfield voice was because that does sound like Bill Murray. LOL. I am pretty much neutral towards Bill Murray; I haven't found any particular reasons to like or dislike him. Not that I've gone out of my way to learn about him.

So you saw the new Jungle Book then? How is it?

Date: 2016-08-24 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rose-of-pollux.livejournal.com
Bleh.

Hmm

Yeah, I saw it on the flight back from India--I meant to tell you but forgot due to jet lag. *headdesk* It's really good, actually! I had only one issue with Murray!Baloo, and that was that he wasn't 100% altruistic initially like Harris!Baloo was--with Harris!Baloo, he basically came across Mowgli, realized that this lone kid needed a mentor, and took him under his wing. Murray!Baloo initially only wanted him around so that he could use his human ingenuity to access out-of-reach honey; that phase lasts fairly short, thank goodness, and he quickly comes to genuinely care for him.

The other thing, which was more a WTH moment was King Louie basically being a mob boss. ...I can't make this up--Brooklyn accent and everything.

And of course, I did cringe when the ancient temple collapsed, but I cringed during the animated version of that scene, as well.

But other than that, it was very enjoyable!

Date: 2016-08-24 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] insaneladybug.livejournal.com
That's good that the self-serving phase doesn't last long!

Oy vey. Brooklyn mob boss Louie in the middle of India. Making him a mob boss kind of seems like an insult to the character, too. Not that he was exactly a good guy in the movie, but it was hard to fully think of him as a bad guy there.

Ah yeah, that would be hard to see. Did Louie survive the collapse in the new version?

Good to hear! I was a little sad when I read the detailed summary and it sounded like they don't do the Baloo h/c scene in the climax?

Date: 2016-08-24 11:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rose-of-pollux.livejournal.com
Indeed.

Yeeeep. And true.

It's completely ambiguous--he was caught in the collapse and we see the monkeys trying to clear away some rubble, but we're never given a definite answer--though he does show up in the pop-up storybook credits, but whether that means anything in regards to his survival is unknown.

Yeaaaaah, unfortunately, no. It's a bait-and-switch; we see Shere Khan knock him out and you expect that they'll do it, but the next time we see him, he's conscious again.

Date: 2016-08-25 12:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] insaneladybug.livejournal.com
Hmm. I'd probably choose to interpret it that he's okay, but who knows.

Bah! What a gyp!

Date: 2016-08-25 09:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] insaneladybug.livejournal.com
Okay, I found where Egon's voice actor talked about what happened. He said Bill Murray was just casually asking why Egon's voice sounded almost exactly like his movie counterpart and Peter's sounded like Garfield. He wasn't trying to get Lorenzo Music fired. The studio just decided to replace him on their own after that incident. So Wikipedia reported it wrong, even though they linked to the interview. **headdesk.** Still sad, though.

Even worse is what was told in that interview about Winston's actors. The movie actor showed up trying to get the role and they chose Arsenio Hall over him. WTH. Gah, that poor guy. I feel so bad for him. First he thought Winston would have a much bigger role in the film, then he can't even play his own character on the series!

Date: 2016-08-25 10:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rose-of-pollux.livejournal.com
Bleeeh, well I feel better about it now, but ugh at the studio now!

And gah, the poor actor! *hugs him*

Date: 2016-08-26 12:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] insaneladybug.livejournal.com
Totally!

**does too!**

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